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2:08:50 PM [Visitor] What can a parent that is
recieving child support do when the other parent doesn't
pay?
2:16:28 PM
[Visitor] Shouldn't child support come out their tax
refund if they don't pay? Sally1
2:44:18 PM
[Jeff Startzman] Our
office enforces child support orders when someone does
not pay. We have a variety of administrative and
judicial tools to do this. Intercepting an obligor's tax
refund is one of those tools. Please call your tech to
discuss what is being done and what can be done based
upon the facts of your case.
Question: I realize that your immunity deal that you
offered in August may serve a purpose, however for
someone like me it was a complete disservice, let me
explain...Child support was suppposed to start in 2005.
In 2005 I received $0 in 2006 I received $2490, in 2007
I received $4,477.00 and in 2008 I have recieved
$1650.51. His monthly support was $1093 and was
increased to $1312 to accomodate back pay. I have had 8
court dates for contempt of court and there WAS a
warrant issued that accumulated to 201 days for contempt
and failure to appear. My ex showed up on August 26 and
paid $100 toward the $36,000+ that he owes me and was
sent on his way. I ask you why when someone owes that
large amount of money, how can you justify accepting
$100? At a minimum you should ask for a % like 25% or
something. We have another court appearance coming up
on October 31, I am supposed to take off another half
day of work where I will not be paid to go in front of a
judge where nothing is being done to help me or better
yet my kids. To allow my ex to walk away only paying
$100 is a slap in my face. It no longer makes sense for
me to lose a half days pay to show up in court when you
guys will not lock him up. He lives in Kentucky and
Ohio will not cross state lines to pick him up when
there WAS a warrant. How can you help me? This is very
frustrating that immunity offer should have NEVER been
accepted in this case.
Jeff Startzman: Neither we nor the courts offered
"immunity" to anyone. Your ex-husband's warrant was for
failure to appear, not failure to pay. By giving him an
opportunity to turn himself in to the court, that
allowed your case to go back to a hearing. His prior
stayed sentence of 201 days remains. Regarding whether
you need to be at this hearing, please call the attorney
on your case to discuss this with them. I do not want
you to miss work if you do not have to.
2:33:03 PM
[Visitor] In that case, would the non-custodial
parent have to pay the court costs for that form of
contempt or how would that work? My husband has been
going through this issue for the past 4 years. And
honestly, it is getting old because she is doing it on
purpose and out of spite.
2:36:30 PM
[Jeff Startzman] Yes.
This is not anything that our agency is permitted to
handle by law. Unless the court waives the cost, he
would have to pay them like anybody else. He may want to
consult an attorney regarding his legal options.
2:30:16 PM
[Visitor] One more question, If I came to court with
most of the money, would the judge put me in jail?? This
is my first review hearing after the contempt hearing. I
also have to care for my other child.
2:33:56 PM
[Jeff Startzman] I
cannot speak on behalf of the court and I do not know
the history of your case. Having said that, when people
make an honest effort to comply and make substantial
payments, even if they are not everything that is owed,
the courts and our attorneys will work with you. As I
told someone earlier, our goal is not to put people in
jail but to collect money that is owed for children.
2:29:00 PM
[Visitor] If the support order says that if the
noncustodial parent is current with support, he/she is
able to claim the child as a dependent on their tax
return. What happens if the custodial parent decides
they don't want to abide by that order
2:29:16 PM
[Visitor] and claims the child anyway delaying the
return of the noncustodial parent
2:31:27 PM
[Jeff Startzman] You
certainly have the right to take that person back to
court since they did not abide by the order. Routinely
the IRS becomes the "cop"" that has to sort out who gets
the deduction.
2:27:11 PM
[Jessica Ashley] Oops, one more! Would it matter if
the child support was determined in their divorce
paperwork?
2:29:22 PM
[Jeff Startzman] I don't
understand. Most divorces involving children have
parenting time orders and child support orders.
Madison: What do courts do to "non-payers"? What is
the cut-off point that assigns someone such a title and
are criminally charged? What are the sentences given to
an individual who has an excessive amount of unpaid
child support?
Jeff Startzman: Civil contempt of court is 30
days first offense, 60 second, 90 third. Criminal
non-support is statutorily defined as failing to provide
support for 26 of the last 104 weeks. Criminal
non-support can be a first-degree misdemeanor or a
fifth-degree felony. Repeat offenders can be a
fourth-degree felony.
1:55:22 PM
[Jessica Ashley] We also have a child together,
wouldn't this affect the amount of child support he
would have to pay on his 2 other children, if he now has
another dependent?
2:20:55 PM
[Jeff Startzman] Yes. He
can request a modification based upon a change of
circumstances -- that being another dependent which is
factored into the child support computations.
2:04:57 PM [Visitor] How do the cash medical
support orders work? What if the custodial parent has
been ordered to provide medical insurance? Will that
affect the non-custodial parent who pays support?
2:16:55 PM
[Jeff Startzman] An
obligor can be ordered to pay an additional amount
called a cash medical payment over and above child
support. This amount is ordered when there is no medical
coverage provided and the parties income levels meet
certain thresholds.
2:01:51 PM
[Visitor] Why in the world does it take SOO long to
get contempt orders moving??
2:14:48
PM [Jeff Startzman]
Answer to first question: When an obligor is behind and
the decision is made to pursue contempt we must locate
the obligor so they can be served with notice of the
motion. When that is accomplished, the next step is a
hearing in court. At that hearing, the court will decide
whether or not the obligor is in contempt for failure to
follow the court's order. If they are, then they receive
a sentence which is stayed to coerce them into
complying. If they fail to comply, then the court could
ultimately impose that sentence. The court is using its
contempt power to try to get payments. Our goal is not
to send people to jail but to collect support that is
owed.
Questions
from Madison:
1. How effective has posting most wanted posters been
for providing children with overdue child support?
Jeff Startzman: Most Wanted posters
have been a good tool to help us locate absent parents
who owe support and who have warrants for their failure
to appear After they are arrested, they are back in the
judicial system and subject to what the courts do to
non-payers.
2. Why is it harder for men to receive child support
although their ex-wives may make significantly more
money than they do?
Jeff Startzman: Child Support is computed
pursuant to the Ohio Child Support guidelines. It makes
no difference who the custodial parent is. If you do not
have an order, and want to get one established, please
contact us at 946-SETS.
3. Why do you choose to provide online chats to discuss
these issues instead of holdin public meetings?
Jeff Startzman: We hold lots of public
meetings/presentations. If you would like to request a
speaker, please use the Speaker Request form under
Contact Us on
www.hcjfs.org. If you have a question about your
case, please feel free to contact me at 946-2023.
4. Is there any person in the discussion that would be
willing to talk with me about their personal concerns in
regards to child support processes?
Jeff Startzman: Sure. Please call if you have any
questions.
1:58:46 PM
[Visitor Mary Bush] Dear CSEA, My divorce was Oct
1989. Most times when my ex husband is ordered to court
for failure to pay, he will lie & say he's lost his job.
He did this last month & returns to court in Dec 08. I
can't take off work each time to attend as I'm the only
parent who has fed, clothed, sheltered & provided
medical care for my children, now ages 18, 19 & 20. One
is in high school, the next in college. Obligor ex
husband lives 40 miles away, I don't know where he
works, but when he talks on phone with eldest son, he
mentions he's on his way to & from work & through
grandparents know he's a cook someplace in Middletown,
where he's live most of his life & for last 15 years.
Would you be able to track his job through tax records?
He owes over $10,000 & last paid $17. in March. He's
never paid support any other way than wage garnishment &
acts willing to pay in court, & told Judge last month
he'd send in a check that week, but hasn't. Any
suggestions? Thank you for making him go to court.
Jeff Startzman: I would like you to call
our attorney that has your case in court. You can speak
with them about possibly issuing subpoenas and taking
other action for the next hearing. I hate to say much
more, since we already have him in court.
1:53:37 PM
[Visitor] Why can't hamilton cty. have a direct link
to the IRS to check that income reported to is the same
as income reported to the IRS? W2's are not enough
evidence
Jeff Startzman: We would love to have such a
tool. Unfortunately, the IRS does not share such
information with child support.
1:48:15 PM
[visitor] how long do u let a person owe 16,000
Jeff Startzman: Once a person is in
default, which is defined as one month behind, we take
administrative action to enforce the case. That can
elevate to legal action such as civil contempts. If this
fails, then the next route may very well be criminal
non-support charges. Every case is different, so please
contact your tech to discuss what is going on in the
case.
1:47:28 PM
[Visitor] I'm a father who is rasing one child. The
Mother does not pay child support. My other son lives
with his Mother, and she admitted to the judge is that
she wants to put me in jail. I'm unable to keep a job
because of a previous felony 12 years ago. I'm trouble
free now, and am raising my other son now with the help
of my family. How do I find a job to stay out of jail
and provide for my other son? I have a court date coming
up and I have 1500 dollars that I manage to scrimp to
pay the court for my boy, but I'm about 1200 short. Any
suggestions? I want to be a father and I want to see my
other son.
Jeff Startzman: Please contact Alan Clay
at (513) 946-7283 to have him put you in touch with some
programs that can help both with parenting issues and
refer you to Super Jobs, who can assist ex-offenders in
finding employment.
1:41:32 PM
[Kristin ] I have never got a raise in child
support. It's been 8 years since my divorce. He makes a
ton more money now and lives in Honduras so I raise the
kid's and pay for everything. I am disabled and The
kid's and I barely make it. My ex has a maid and home
paid for by his company along with a large expense
account. Can I get a substantial raise.
1:48:24 PM
[Kristin ] Cost of everything have increased over
the past 8 years. He has never been able to hold up his
end of visitation, because he is always out of town. He
does come back for a week or a few days here and there
to see the kid's. But you see I am mainly the provider
of all things the kid's need and I am happy to do what I
can, however he makes 90,000 plus a year andI get a very
small disability check and child support based on what
he made in 2001. My kid's are on the free lunch program.
We are considered below poverty level. Plus I have been
diabled for 13 years and it is hard for me to leave my
home often. What can I do? Thank you for any help you
can provide.
Jeff Startzman: Yes. You have the option of
filing a motion directly in court requesting a
modification or contacting our order modification people
and requesting us to do one administratively. Their
number is; (513) 946-8273
1:40:40 PM
[Jessica Ashley] If my husband has 2 jobs but they
are only taking child support from one of them (not
enough to cover it), can we have his whole check
automatically taken from the one job? Does this make
sense?
Jeff Startzman: No. Federal law has a limitation
on how much can come out of one paycheck. But if we find
a second job, we can take the remainder out of that
paycheck. Please call your tech to make sure they know
about the other job. They can do an employment
verification to confirm it.
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